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Friday, July 3, 2009

Here's a hint, study

I'm getting a little tired of answering some lame-brained contradictions from people who are too lazy to actually do any learning for themselves.

I have Lucky, who thinks there was some conspiracy between the English translators of the Bible to turn it into the worship of the sun, I have James who probably has never heard the words "covenant" and "dispensation" used in the same paragraph, and I have the entire wealth of Google.com cut n pasted into this political site.

So far, y'all have embarrassed yourselves.

So here is my request, to prevent my boredom and your further embarrassment. Do some study. Read the Bible. All of it. Read some books about the Bible, not just the handful of conspiracy theorist nutjob books, but real books by real scholars.

Think for yourselves. Wikipedia.com is great for a quick reference during a political debate. It is not the best source for indepth theological study. The internet is great, but there is as much crap as there is real knowledge.

Use some critical thinking. Jeremiah probably didn't disagree with himself. If you find a simple blazing apparent contradiction that no one else has ever thought of before, perhaps there is something you are missing. Just a thought.

Peter, Paul, John, James, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and Jude were all contemporaries. If James wrote something John disagreed with, John would probably write something about it, like he did when the Gnostics started coming out with their mystic greek/Christian syncretism.

The people who lived when the apostles did probably know more about who wrote the books attributed to the apostles than you do. Just saying.

If you don't know the basics about biblical history and basic bible stories, you're going to get creamed every time when you cut n paste arguments. Moses was not on the ark, David and Jonathan were not gay, imprecatory Psalms say "happy is he" not "I am happy when I", Paul's theology was tested thoroughly and accepted by the other apostles, he was not changing what Jesus taught.

In fact, the apostles writings were in most cases expounding on what Jesus taught that wasn't already covered in the historical narrative of the Bible. The Gospel writers wrote to different people for different purposes. When the writer of Hebrews said "faith is the evidence of things unseen", he was telling this to people as one who had witnessed first hand the resurrection. The context is faith in Jesus' promises and eminent return, not faith that Jesus ever actually existed.

No Apostle got rich off the gospel. In fact, only one died of natural causes, not execution.

If you did not know these things that I have posted in this blog, then I suggest you do a little leg work before you decide to challenge Christianity and attack me on what I believe. If you have honest questions, I will be happy to help you in the study process. If you have cut n paste questions, I will continue to treat each one the way I have been.

If you are not willing to study some of this for yourself and learn the Bible in it's original historical context before you attack it, then I recommend sticking to politics.
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I studied the Torah inside and out for 16 long dreadful years and my thought on it is still the same. religion was the first form of politics. Rabbis and pastors used the peoples fear of the unknown to scare them into behaving a certain way. It has come to a point (in this country) were faith is blind and people still act a certain way b.c of this book without understanding it themselves. Sort of like the blind faith people had in Obama when he was talking about hope and change but the only thing he changed was HIS wallet and which country he has sent the troops to fight.
Lucky, the sun is very bright, powerful and hot. Maybe I'm the sun.
James, why don't you start by taking your own advice and actually reading the Bible.
I have read many religious books. They all say they are the right one, but if all the monotheistic religions have the same god, then why cant we all get along? I think that's a more important question that whether or not the bible is about the sun.
i thought thats what martin luther's reformation was against having someone read the bible for you and interpret it for you instead of reading it yourself
you mean we need some one to misinterpret the bible for me, if the bible is god's word why do i need some one to interpret it for me
Hmm? The only thing that I can think of that could turn water into wine is the sun. Doesn't that seem more plausible? Jesus is a metaphor for the sun. What else could walk on water ... besides the sun?
I respect your beliefs. Personally I think that the bible is metaphorical in areas. Maybe the miracles are not based on him turning water to wine, maybe it is him buying them wine to sell. Maybe instead of healing the sick with his hand, he payed for them to be healthy. That of course may not be true, there can be many things true about what the metaphorical parts are...
Here is a hint ... you mean indoctrinate ... not study.

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